Debate with the Danielle’s: Vaccines

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THIS WEEKS TOPIC
Vaccines – Yay or Nay? What do YOU say?
 
MY OPINION

Nay a million time… and to the moon and back!

My anti-vaccinating opinion comes from everything posted below and so much more. I will apologize in advance for writing too much… but then again, maybe this will help someone, so I will take that apology back.

I’d like to start with a quote from Dr. Sears:

Some people feel that vaccine books aren’t necessary, because to read one implies you don’t trust your doctor or the medical community. After all, why not just ask your doctor if vaccines are absolutely necessary and safe and leave it at that? It takes all of one minute, then you’re done. No research or effort on your part is needed. Here’s the problem with that approach. Doctors, myself included, learn a lot about diseases in medical school, but we learn very little about vaccines, other than the fact that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies do extensive research on vaccines to make sure they are safe and effective. We don’t review the research ourselves. We never learn what goes into making vaccines or how their safety is studied. We trust and take it for granted that the proper researchers are doing their job. So, when patients want a little more information about shots, all we can really say as doctors is that the diseases are bad and the shots are good. But we don’t know enough to answer all of your detailed questions about vaccines, nor do we have the time during a regular health check up to thoroughly discuss and debate the pros and cons of vaccines. That’s why I’ve written this book. I did the research. I’ve spent the last 13 years learning everything I could about vaccines and the diseases they are designed to prevent and put it all together in one place so you could get all your questions answered.”

DOSES

Back in 1982 pediatricians were giving 23 doses of 7 child vaccines. By 2007, the federal government recommended immunizations more than doubled to 54 doses of 16 child vaccines. These recommended immunizations included diphtheria (6 doses), pertussis (6 doses), tetanus (6 doses), polio (4 doses), measles (2 doses), mumps (1 dose), rubella (1 dose), HIB (4 doses), hepatitis B (3 doses), chicken pox (2 doses), hepatitis A (2 doses), pneumococcal (4 doses), rotavirus (3 doses), influenza (5 doses), meningococcal (1 dose), and HPV (3 – for girls).

Does this alarm anyone besides me?

Want more?

COMMON TOXIC VACCINE INGREDIENTS/CHEMICALS:

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There are many, many more!

Don’t believe me?

Check out the list of each vaccine and each and every ingredient in each vaccine… along with each vaccine-associated reaction and condition.

flu package

VACCINE CASUALTIES

The Institute of Medicine published reports in 1991 and 1994 that confirmed that vaccines can cause damage to the immune system and brain, including death.

VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION STATISTICS (2011)

  • OVER 1,000 DEATHS
  • OVER 12,000 INJURIES
  • OVER 12,000 Compensated IN 2010 FROM Adverse Reactions to VACCINATIONS
  • $2,213,229,050.37 Dollars AWARDED IN 2010 FOR ADVERSE EFFECTS… REPORTED: http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreports.html#Stats

I most certainly do not want to be one included in this list, however I am. I have 2 children with issues that I believe were caused by vaccines and I believe that I also have issues due to vaccines.

VACCINE INSERTS DO NOT LIE

How many parents go to the doctor appointment and before letting their child be injected, they ask for the vaccine insert and READ IT? I have a feeling that if parents did read the inserts, they most certainly would not go through with the vaccine.

Vaccine inserts list SIDS and Autism as adverse events: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm101580.pdf –
It is a fact that coroners do not check vaccine status of SIDS victims.
DO YOU want to take that chance? I certainly do not.

Here is a vaccine insert – see for yourself:

There have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza after vaccination 

FLU.2

Here are the rest of the inserts:
http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/

Here is the DTaP Insert that states,

“Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea.”
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm101580.pdf

I find it interesting that the actual vaccine insert states SIDS and Autism as adverse events, but so many people want to over look Autism and not consider that the vaccine ingredients may have caused it. And on the topic of SIDS… not one single SIDS case has ever looked at the baby’s vaccine records to see if there is a correlation. Sids usually occurs right after baby receives his shots.

As for the Whooping Cough “scare” – here is a bunch of studies that debunk the Whooping Cough Vaccine Myth. It just so happens that the one’s who are getting the Whooping Cough ARE VACCINATED!
http://www.dailypaul.com/167931/a-collection-of-mainstream-news-reports-and-studies-exploding-the-whooping-cough-vaccine-myth

Autoimmune Disorders

How about vaccine ineffectiveness? I do not believe vaccines are ‘immunizations’. In fact, far from it, I believe vaccines destroy the immune.

In1980, less than 2 million children ages 14 years or younger suffered with asthma – an autoimmune disorder. In 2002 that number had risen to between 6.5 and 9 million. That is between 9 and 13% of all children or 1 in 9 children!!

Asthma is just one example. There are hundreds.

What about things like allergies, chronic ear infections, eczema?

Learning Disabilities

Since the 1970’s (back when half as many child vaccines were given), more than twice as many children are suffering with chronic brain and immune system dysfunction. In 1970, 4 in 10,000 children developed autism. In February 2007, the CDC published an analysis of 2002 data, which revealed that 1 in 94 to 1 in 303 children developed autism with an average of 1 in 150 or more suffering from Autism Spectrum Disorders.

In 2003 there were nearly 3 million children ages 3 to 21 years old in public school programs that were classified ‘learning disabled’. Back in 1976 there were only 796,000.

A national survey in 2005 reported that approximately 16% of boys and 8% of girls ages 5 to 17 years in America had been diagnosed with learning disabilities or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) – which is about 1 in 6.

Encephalitis is swelling of the brain. Doctors just tell you that it’s normal for your baby to scream after shots. The swelling of the brain (caused by vaccination) is mistakenly taken for shaken baby syndrome. THAT IS HOW AWFUL ENCEPHALITIS IS! AND VACCINES CAUSE THIS! Your baby is SCREAMING after shots! THIS IS WHY! It also causes the fever, sleepiness, and loss of appetite. This is the mild symptoms of encephalitis. The severe symptom is DEATH. And like I said, there are parents out in the world who have been accused of shaken baby syndrome who have NOT shaken and abused their precious little babies.

Encephalitis is also listed on quite a few vaccine inserts as an adverse effect. Here is just one insert: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123789.pdf

Read more on Encephalitis:
http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/Results.aspx?k=Encephalitis
http://thetruthergirls.com/DTaP_Damage.html

ABORTED FETAL TISSUE is an ingredient in vaccines and I do not agree with this at all. Not only do I not agree with abortion, I also do not agree with injecting this in our bodies.

  • Human cell Line: PER C6 – The vaccines are derived from cells taken from the lung tissue of a child who was electively aborted at 14 weeks gestation and then dissected.
  • Human diploid cells: WI-38 – The vaccines are derived from cells taken from the lung tissue of a child who was electively aborted at 14 weeks gestation and then dissected.
  • Human Diploid cells: MRC5 proteins – The vaccines are derived from cells taken from the lung tissue of a child who was electively aborted at 14 weeks gestation and then dissected.

Vaccines that use aborted fetuses:

  • Acambis 1000 (smallpox) Acambis – MRC5
  • Avaxim (hepatitis A) Pateur Merieux – MRC5
  • Biavax (mumps, rubella) Merck — RA273, WI-38
  • Ebola – PER C6
  • Ervevax (rubella) Smithkilne Beecham – MRC5
  • Havarix (hepatitis A) Smithkilne Beecham – MRC5
  • Imovax HDCV, DCO (rabies) Pasteur Merieux Connaught – MRC5
  • Influenza – PER C6
  • Malaria – PER C6
  • Meruvax II (rubella) Merck — RA273, WI-38
  • MMR II (Measles, mumps, rubella) Merck Sharp & Dohme — WI-38
  • MR VAX (measles, rubella) Merck — RA273, WI-38
  • Poliovax (polio, IPV) MRC5
  • Priorix (measles, mumps, rubella) Smithkline Beecham – MRC5
  • Proquad (mmr, chickenpox/varicella) Merck — RA273, WI-38, MRC5
  • Rabies antibody combination – PER C6
  • Tuberculosis – PER C6
  • Twinrix (hepatitis A and B) GSK – MRC5
  • VAQTA (hepatitis A) MSD – MRC5
  • Varivax (chickenpox, varicella) MSD — WI-38
  • West Nile – PER C6
  • Zostavax (shingles) Merck — MRC5, WI-38

VACCINE MYTHS: (To read any info below in more detail or more facts, click here on “Vaccine Myths”)

  • Vaccine Myth #1Vaccines are Safe
    • 97.5% of vaccine related deaths and disabilities go unreported.
    • In the mid 1970’s Japan raised their vaccination age from two months to two years; their incidence of SIDS dropped dramatically; they went from an infant mortality ranking of 17 to first in the world (i.e., Japan had the lowest infant death rate when infants were not being immunized).
  • Vaccine Myth #2Vaccines are Effective
    • In 1989 the CDC reported: “Among school-aged children, [measles] outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination levels of greater than 98 percent.
    • In the US in 1986, 90% of 1300 pertussis cases in Kansas were “adequately vaccinated.” 72% of pertussis cases in the 1993 Chicago outbreak were fully up to date with their vaccinations.
  • Vaccine Myth #3Vaccines are the reason for low disease rates in the US today.
    • According to the British Association for the Advancement of Science, childhood diseases decreased 90% between 1850 and 1940, paralleling improved sanitation and hygienic practices, well before mandatory vaccination programs.
    • The Medical Sentinel recently reported, “from 1911 to 1935, the four leading causes of childhood deaths from infectious diseases in the US were diphtheria, pertussis, scarlet fever, and measles. However, by 1945 the combined death rates from these causes had declined by 95 percent, before the implementation of mass immunization programs.”
    • 2011 – Whooping Cough is showing up in children who have been vaccinated.
  • Vaccine Myth #4 – Vaccination is based on sound immunization theory and practice
    • An 8 pound 2 month old baby receives the same dosage as a 40 pound five year old child. Infants with immature, undeveloped immune systems may receive five or more times the dosage, relative to body weight, as older children.
  • Vaccine Myth #5 – Childhood diseases are very dangerous
    • Most childhood infectious diseases have few serious consequences in today’s modern world. Even conservative CDC statistics for pertussis during 1992-94 indicate a 99.8% recovery rate.
    • Dangers of childhood diseases are greatly exaggerated in order to scare parents into compliance with a questionable but highly profitable procedure.
  • Vaccine Myth #6Polio was one of the clearly great vaccination success stories
    • During 1962 U.S. Congressional hearings, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the Dept. of Biostatistics for the University of North Carolina School of Public Health, testified that not only did the cases of polio increase substantially after mandatory vaccinations — a 50% increase from 1957 to 1958, and an 80% increase from 1958 to 1959-but that the statistics were deliberately manipulated by the Public Health Service to give the opposite impression.
    • The polio vaccine temporarily reversed disease declines that were underway before the vaccine was introduced; this fact was deliberately covered up by health authorities. In Europe, polio declined in countries that both embraced and rejected the vaccine.
  • Vaccine Myth #7My child had no reaction to the vaccines, so there is nothing to worry about.
    • The documented long term adverse effects of vaccines include chronic immunological and neurological disorders such as autism, hyperactivity, attention deficit disorders, dyslexia, allergies, cancer, and other conditions, many of which barely existed before mass vaccination programs.
    • The long term adverse effects of vaccinations have been ignored in spite of compelling correlations with many serious chronic conditions. Doctors can’t explain the dramatic rise in many of these diseases.
    • Vaccine ingredients include known toxicants and carcinogens such as thimersol (a mercury derivative), aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde (for which the Poisons Information Centre in Australia claims there is no acceptable safe amount that can be injected into a living human body), and phenoxyethanol (commonly known as antifreeze).
    • Some of these ingredients are gastrointestinal toxicants, liver toxicants, respiratory toxicants, neurotoxicants, cardiovascular and blood toxicants, reproductive toxicants, and developmental toxicants, to name a few of the known dangers. Chemical ranking systems rate many vaccine ingredients among the most hazardous substances, and they are heavily regulated.

 

Preservative FREE Vaccines? Not True.

This is another “myth” or just a plain lie if you ask me.

Multidose preparations (several doses in the same container) contain preservatives to prevent contamination from the surroundings in connection with withdrawal of several doses. This preservative is often thimerosal/mercury.

To have preservative properties it must be present in a strength of at least 0.01% in the final product. (Equivalent to 50 microgram thimerosal per 0.5ml dose, or 25 microgram mercury).

Single dose injections do not normally require preservatives because they are discarded after the one dose is withdrawn. However it is difficult and expensive to remove absolutely all of the preservative (up to 0.3 microgram per 0.5 ml dose is allowed to remain).

This is termed “trace” mercury and is not sufficient to have preservative properties because it is not present in sufficient strength.

In other words, the vaccine may be labeled as “preservative free”, but only because they do not contain mercury in a high enough concentration to be labeled otherwise. This is just too  bad, because they may still contain mercury.

A simple question I have…

If pro-vaxers are sooo sure that vaccines work – then why is there such a big fuss over our non-vaxed children? If our non-vaxed children were near your vaccinated children and our child carried one of these diseases… your powerful vaccines should do their job and protect your child, right?!? So what is the big concern?

And one last question:

Does it bother anyone that it is AMERICA that requires it’s citizens to use more vaccines than any other nation in the world?

I personally find that a bit interesting and alarming.

My family builds our immune in a more natural way. With healthy living, vitamins and natural heath care. We see a holistic doctor where we are able to build our immune systems by regular adjustments and much more.

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Comments

  1. Thanks for the info. Our daughter is fully vaccinated, and to be honest, I’m kicking myself over that right now. For example, why did we vaccinated her against Hepatitis B? There’s NO reason she needed that vaccine. My husband and I have watched The Greater Good and Frontline’s The Vaccine War. We both thought The Greater Good showed a much fairer balance than Frontline’s. We plan on reading Dr. Sears’ book on vaccinations. For our next child, at this point they will be selectively vaccinated.

    But thanks for this post, I’ll be coming back to it and reading it better when I don’t have a headache.

  2. Thanks for the great article, Danielle!

    If one researches the vaccination issue in some depth, one is in my opinion bound to arrive, as I did, at the conclusion that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science.

    “Belief in vaccination is a form of delusional insanity.”
    Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

    Watch this excellent lecture by Dr Russell Blaylock MD:

    I also invite readers to visit my Facebook page Vaccination Information Network (VINE)- 18,565 fans:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vaccination-Information-Network-VINE/69667273997

  3. Charis’ Mum – it is obviously better to selectively vaccinate than to fully comply with the government-recommended vaccine child poisoning schedule, but why poison your child at all?

    “Vaccination is a massive fraud.”
    Dr Russell Blaylck MD, USA

    I have a friend whose only son was severely brain damaged by a single vaccine – his first – he was given when he was 18 months old. So much for selective and delayed vaccination! Bernhard is now in his early fifties and is unable to speak, shave himself or to brush his teeth. He is also the last male member of this branch of the family and will be unable to carry on the family name, as he won’t be able to marry. So much for the benefits of vaccines! Give my child measles, mumps, rubella or chickenpox anytime! Tetanus is easily prevented by proper wound care, including a once only administration of hydrogen peroxide solution.
    Once serious diseases like diphtheria and polio are no longer around in develped nations – no thanks to vaccinations!
    http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=8&Itemid=55

    You may find it helpful to visit my photo gallery of healthy, happy and thriving vaccine-free children:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vaccine-Free-Children-Photo-Gallery/105913216168510

    All the best!

  4. Excellent post. I agree with you 100%. I wish more than anything I could take back the vaccinations I gave my daughter and son. We vaccinated them on schedule, and my son ended up having a life threatening reaction to his vaccines.

    We have 2 additional children that have not received any vaccines. We are so grateful we came to know the truth behind the vaccine conspiracy.

  5. Shonda Potter says:

    Very good. I have 3 kids… oldest is 6 vaxxed until he was 4 (he has autism) 4 yr old vaxxed until 18 months (also has autism) and an 18 month old with a speech delay… (not autism YET no diagnosis yet) she quit talking and babbled more in a a few months time… now she is saying 5 words again THANK GOD!! My son’s neurologist has said for sure vaccines caused his encephalitis that caused the damage we call autism… (4 yr old) I didn’t find out about vaccines until after my daughters 6 month vaxx… 🙁 so Its people like this I wish I could have met BEFORE vaxin my kids… also , my son’s genetisist said ONLY 20% of autism cases are genetic, however, we are apart of the 80% that autism was caused by “environmental” factors… thank you for spreading the word

  6. sorry just had to post again so I can give my URL

  7. I COMPLETELY agree! We had one child vaccinated and the other is not, guess which one is healthier? Same gene pool, one is Autistic with SEVERE food allergies and was in and out of the hospital with stomach issues, a zillion ear infections(did not go to daycare), and the other did not/is not. That is my proven science at my house. People.don’t.get.it.

  8. I have a daughter who is 10. She is fully vaxed because I didn’t know any better. She had tonsils/adenoids out at 2 and tubes at 7. Constant ear infections, upper respiratory infections etc. SICK ALL THE TIME. My 2.5 yr old and 2 month old are not vaxed and have never once been sick. Never used antibiotics, nothing! I married a chiropractor and I wish I had known what he knew when my daughter was a baby!

  9. Anonymous says:

    As the mother of a preemie who cannot be vaccinated because she has a serious autoimmune disease, I find this absolutely infuriating. Not only do I have to worry about her being hospitalized over a cold, but she will never have a normal childhood experience (school, extra cirriculars, etc) because DESPITE THE ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY, parents hop on a celebrity bandwagon and decide vaccines magically cause autism or are otherwise dangerous. This means my daughter no longer has herd protection. Quite frankly, choosing not to vaccinate based on bullshit pseudo science is not only irresponsible, it’s abusive.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hi Anon. I can certainly understand your fear. Had I not been reading up on vaccines and the illnesses they “protect against” for the past 5 years, I too may be feeling as you are. And nothing is scarier than having a tiny baby you want protected, exposed to disease because of ignorance and stupidity. Unfortunately, your child is not being exposed to any of that by having parents not vaccinate their kids or go on a modified vaccine schedule. You see, we all know how the vaccines are supposed to work, what they are made of and how “effective” they really are. We have read the CDC’s website on vaccines. We have read the package inserts. We have looked at the studies that have been done. We have read numerous books, website and articles. And after doing all that, we have seen the truth. That the current vaccine schedule is making our kids sicker than any other generation of children, ever, and its barely preventing the illnesses it claims it is. That the most highly vaccinated countries have the highest childhood mortality rates. That the vaccines, when they work, are creating epidemics of other diseases, that are now being recommended to be vaccinated against. We are watching beautiful young girls in the prime of their life, have their lives destroyed by a vaccine that has never even been proven to show it works against the very illness it is being marketed to prevent. We have seen safety studies that are so flawed that they should not even be called a safety study, they should be called a marketing study. We know that there are many many childhood illnesses that were very rare as recently as recently as 20 years ago that are now affecting mostly fully vaccinated children. And we are not making these decisions lightly or based on celebrities. We want our children to be as healthy as you hope your baby will be. Lastly, there is no herd immunity, its total BS IMO. Do the research and do the math. It literally doesn’t add up. I promise you, vaccines are not the path to health and people are catching on and realizing this which is why this issue is so hot right now. If I had a premie, I would be BFing like crazy, keeping him/her home and away from the general public as much as possible and I would be eating a very healthy fully organic diet.

    • Hey Anon,
      Sorry your baby is sick. We just had a baby 6 weeks ago and the vaccine issue is prescient. Our son suffered from vaccine caused autism 7 years ago. It’s been tough helping our son overcome his disability but with God’s help we have persevered. I can’t take the chance that the same thing will happen to our daughter no matter what any of you say. We have a duty to protect her. I will pray for you and your family.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m truly sorry your son is Autistic, but it’s not because of vaccines. That theory has been proven false a thousand times over. Believe me, I understand the impulse to place blame or find a reason for a sick/disabled child, but it is a scientific fact that autism is a genetic predisposition, not a “vaccine injury”.

    • I would love to know where you these studies are. I have been working in the autism field for 17 years now. Here are a few facts: 1. genetically identified autism occurs in roughly 3% of the cases. 2. In over 90% of the cases the cause is officially unknown. 3. In 1983 autism the autism diagnosis was given to roughly 1 in 10,000 children. I 2009 the diagnosis was given to roughly one in 150 children (CDC figures). 4. between 1983 and 2009 the vaccine schedule increased from 3 shots before age 6 to over 30 shots before age six. (CDC figures). My opinion about the data is that autism is caused by the increase of the vaccine schedule or some other mystery cause. Assigning a strictly genetic cause demonstrates a complete lack of understanding or a willful desire to spread falsehoods. Your position is logically impossible.

  10. Anonymous, ONLY 2% of the heard is not vaccinated. Your theory of protection is not in jeopardy. By the way people today don’t jump on celebrity bandwagons they have the misfortune of experiencing vaccine injury for themselves. No need for bs pseudo science when they witness it first hand. It is inevitable that vaccinations will become completely boycotted because of the damage being done to children. You can’t start pumping children from birth with toxins and expect anything less than damage. Time will prove this. Also if the theory of vaccines are the only thing that prevent disease why are there not mass outbreaks among adults?

    • Anonymous says:

      Because adults have all been vaccinated. Facts are fun.

    • LOL That’s funny because the vaccine industry claims kids need multiple doses because the vaccines wear off.

    • Actually almost all vaccines wear off between 2 and 10 years. And only about 2% of adults get adult vaccines like the Tdap (per government data). So basically most adults are not immunized unless they have natural immunity from getting the disease during childhood. Facts ARE fun.

    • Hey Sterling. After reviewing Anonymous original story of being a mom with little knowledge on the subject of vaccine injury only to be followed up by cliched and voluminous big pharma propaganda it is my humble opinion that Anonymous is a big pharma apologist.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I am so sorry that your baby is sick. However, have you considered that the reason she now has an autoimmune disease is because of the vaccines she received in the NICU at the hospital? That was the case with my granddaughter. Check it out if you don’t believe me. Ask to see the records of what vaccines and medications she received as a newborn preemie. I think you will be surprised to see how many there are on that list. Then, if you want to find out the real reason why your child is at risk (and it’s not because of the unvaccinated children) look up the ingredients and registered side effects listed for each of those vaccines and medications. That is where you will find the reason for your daughter’s autoimmune problems. The information on the pamphlets are supplied by the vaccine manufacturer. Read them very carefully. If you need help finding more information about the ingredients and side effects, just ask here. VAERS is a registry set up by the government for the reporting of all vaccine related injuries and it is available online. I think that after you do some research you will agree that it is unconscionable to inject any child, but especially a newborn preemie, with mercury, formaldehyde, squalene, the DNA of aborted fetuses, etc. I hope this information helps you understand why we do not vaccinate our children. It is not because of celebrities like Jenny McCarthy. It is because we don’t want our children to suffer the consequences of our failure to find out the truth about vaccines.

  12. Anonymous says:

    My preemie is now almost three. She wasn’t vaccinated in the NICU. She was very very sick from about my 17th week of pregnancy. She hasn’t been “pumped full of toxins” and she is not my firstborn. (My firstborn has and will continue to receive ALL his vaccines on schedule).

    Do not assume that I have not read every single piece of literature, every study, and every opinion I can get my hands on. I have. And I know facts are no fun, especially when you’re trying to defend the indefensible, but every single “study” that “proves” vaccine injury has been DEBUNKED. The doctor who spread the hysteria has been stripped of his medical license.

    What gives you the right to put your children, and more importantly MINE at risk? By not vaccinating your healthy children, you are creating things like the pertussis epidemic in California. You have made it impossible for me to put my daughter in school. We can’t go to McDonald’s. She can’t take ballet. We cannot ever have a normal life. Obviously, a lot of that is due to her serious health issues. But part of it is this ridiculous anti-vax bandwagon that has been proven to have no basis in reality.

    Another thing that I find so disgusting about all of this is that even if vaccines magically cause autism (again, if you’re intellectually honest you’ll admit that there is NO evidence they do and AMPLE evidence they do not) WHY would any parent prefer a dead or seriously ill child to an autistic one? I would choose autism over polio, measles, mumps, and rubella any day of the week. Any parent who would choose a potentially fatal or crippling illness over a developmental disability doesn’t deserve the title.

    We are lucky we don’t remember the days when these diseases ran rampant, but if enough parents decide protecting their children from these deadly illnesses isn’t important, then we’ll know again.

    I’m so glad your children are healthy. I’m so glad you don’t know the constant fear of a cough or a bruise. But having healthy children does not give you license to put sick kids in danger.

    Perhaps try letting go of the ideology and looking at the actual facts. Facts don’t have bias. I have little hope you will though, because the facts don’t support your horrifying decision to put defenseless babies at serious risk.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Also, VAERS is not fact checked. Anyone can post anything on there. That’s like citing the Onion as actual news.

  14. You are obviously in denial about your daughter not receiving vaccines in the NICU. Perhaps you don’t want to face the fact that you caused your daughter’s immune disease because you allowed it to happen.

  15. It is not my responsibility to provide your child with a sterile environment and there is no way on earth that I would ever allow my child to be put at risk for the sake of yours.

  16. Can anyone provide proof that vaccines actually work? Besides saying people don’t die from those diseases anymore? Deaths from diseases were on the decline before vaccines were introduced, when people started living more sanitary lives. Since the introduction of vaccines, Cancer has been on the rise. Since the increase of vaccines given to a child, autism is on the rise. This can’t all be coincidence.

  17. Premie-Anon: Your information is so wrong it would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic that you have a sick child and are desperately trying to keep him/her safe. If you had in fact read most of the literature, you would not have such venom about this issue. Just today I read a piece from the NIH (yes, THAT NIH) that said the following: “In some developed countries, by the time children are 4 to 6 years old, they will have received a total of 126 antigenic compounds along with high amounts of aluminum (Al) adjuvants through routine vaccinations. According to the US Food and Drug Administration, safety assessments for vaccines have often not included appropriate toxicity studies because vaccines have not been viewed as inherently toxic. Taken together, these observations raise plausible concerns about the overall safety of current childhood vaccination programs. When assessing adjuvant toxicity in children, several key points ought to be considered: (i) infants and children should not be viewed as “small adults” with regard to toxicological risk as their unique physiology makes them much more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al vaccine adjuvants have been linked to a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions (i.e., “ASIA”), yet children are regularly exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) it is often assumed that peripheral immune responses do not affect brain function. However, it is now clearly established that there is a bidirectional neuro-immune cross-talk that plays crucial roles in immunoregulation as well as brain function. In turn, perturbations of the neuro-immune axis have been demonstrated in many autoimmune diseases encompassed in “ASIA” and are thought to be driven by a hyperactive immune response; and (iv) the same components of the neuro-immune axis that play key roles in brain development and immune function are heavily targeted by Al adjuvants. In summary, research evidence shows that increasing concerns about current vaccination practices may indeed be warranted. Because children may be most at risk of vaccine-induced complications, a rigorous evaluation of the vaccine-related adverse health impacts in the pediatric population is urgently needed.” And to say you would rather your child have autism than something like measles or mumps is sheer ignorance on your part. Children recover from things like measles, mumps, whooping cough. Granted, autoimmune compromised children are more at risk of actually dying from these but healthy kids are not. It is not the responsibility of the majority of the population to compromise their own health in the name of keeping a minority of the population healthy. And to be honest, it’s not even possible. Read those efficacy rates on the vaccines. And not the BS advertised ones, the REAL ones in the medical journals. And then read how quickly the vaccines wear off. So quickly that current science can’t even keep up and really doesn’t know how long a lot of vaccines last. And lastly read about herd immunity and it’s origins. Herd immunity was about natural immunity that is obtained through exposure to disease, not exposure to vaccines. There is so much information I could keep typing for hours to argue your “points”.

  18. I am an adult and the only vaccine I have ever received was smallpox because, guess what? that was the only one required when I entered school. Are you afraid of me? Well, then I guess you are afraid of my entire generation. We baby boomers all have NATURAL immunity, not this pseudo-vaccine crap that they shoot into the kids now. The diseases you mention are not life-threatening to my children. I am sorry that is the case with your child, truly I am. But it is not my fault or responsibility. I am not about to risk vaccine injury in order to give you the false hope (false because it is absolutely UNTRUE!) of herd immunity. Stop believing the propaganda that Big Pharma is spoon feeding you and start to think for yourself instead of being one of their sheeple.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Please don’t expect me to put my child in harm’s way for the sake of your child and I, in turn, won’t expect you to put your child in harm’s way for mine. Like all mothers, we both try to do what is best for our child. I just wish, for your child’s sake, that you would look at this with a more open mind.

  20. Hey All (why is everyone named anonymous on this thread, very confusing). After reviewing Preme – Anonymous original story of being a mom with little knowledge on the subject of vaccine injury only to be followed up by cliched and voluminous big pharma propaganda and then followed up by the common political phrase “facts are fun” it is my humble opinion that Anonymous is in reality a big pharma apologist. Thought this might help the discussion. 🙂

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